<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868194292414002063.post7601684055041125849..comments</id><updated>2009-12-08T07:02:49.911-07:00</updated><category term='baseball'/><category term='King Felix'/><category term='hits'/><category term='Thome'/><category term='bullpen'/><category term='bud selig'/><category term='Marcel'/><category term='acrylic'/><category term='Felix Hernandez'/><category term='RotoChamp'/><category term='baserunning value'/><category term='joe beimel'/><category term='Alex Rodriguez'/><category term='tony'/><category term='tamba bay rays'/><category term='Luis Gonzalez'/><category term='modern'/><category term='tipping pitches'/><category term='St. Louis'/><category term='randy flores'/><category term='2010'/><category term='competitive balance'/><category term='Mariano Rivera'/><category term='86 wins 2008'/><category term='ERA'/><category term='senator'/><category term='Projections'/><category term='Game 7'/><category term='salary cap'/><category term='gwynn'/><category term='george mitchell'/><category term='selig'/><category term='reliever'/><category term='Bayes'/><category term='beta distribution'/><category term='Cardinals'/><category term='babe ruth'/><category term='A-Rod'/><category term='3000'/><category term='Cy Young'/><category term='2001 World Series'/><category term='Jim'/><category term='bud'/><category term='regression to the mean'/><category term='mlb'/><category term='painting'/><title type='text'>Comments on 3-D Baseball: Converting OBP/SLG to wOBA</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.3-dbaseball.net/feeds/7601684055041125849/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/7601684055041125849/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.3-dbaseball.net/2009/11/converting-obpslg-to-woba.html'/><author><name>Kincaid</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07348661324396474896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868194292414002063.post-7906423405537122192</id><published>2009-12-08T07:02:49.911-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-08T07:02:49.911-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Right, it&amp;#39;s mostly just a matter of how much m...</title><content type='html'>Right, it&amp;#39;s mostly just a matter of how much math you&amp;#39;re willing to do and how precise you want to be.  (2*OBP+SLG)/3 is good because it is simple to calculate, whereas 1.75*OBP is a pain to try to estimate in your head, so it loses a little functionality.  (1.75*OBP+SLG)/3 is better if you have a spreadsheet or calculator or something, and it&amp;#39;s still simple to remember the formula and type it in, which is probably the biggest advantage over something more precise like the equation in the article.  If you are doing a whole list of players and are running the calculations in Excel, the complex formula  wouldn&amp;#39;t be much more cumbersome than the simpler formula, except there&amp;#39;s no way someone will have the more precise formula memorized for immediate use.  Also, as long as you are using 1.75 instead of 2, you&amp;#39;d probably want to use a divisor closer to 3.05 to scale the mean a bit better, which goes back to how precise do you want to be compared to how much you want to have to remember or rely on computational aids.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Honestly, I don&amp;#39;t think the formula in this article is of much practical use except in a few rare cases (though if you do want to be more precise and don&amp;#39;t mind a little extra work, I guess it&amp;#39;s up to someone to decide if it&amp;#39;s worth using).  If there is something of use to take from this exercise, it&amp;#39;s probably that OPS (or other incarnations thereof) are a messy operation that doesn&amp;#39;t really work off of a clean set of logic like something like wOBA.  Combining unlike terms such as OBP and SLG distorts value to some extent even if you weight them properly, and they happen to work well enough at valuing most players mostly by accident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not that you should really care about that if you are just trying to get a quick and decent estimate of a hitter&amp;#39;s value.  The shortcut works well enough, so you might as well take advantage of that.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/7601684055041125849/comments/default/7906423405537122192'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/7601684055041125849/comments/default/7906423405537122192'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.3-dbaseball.net/2009/11/converting-obpslg-to-woba.html?showComment=1260280969911#c7906423405537122192' title=''/><author><name>Kincaid</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07348661324396474896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.3-dbaseball.net/2009/11/converting-obpslg-to-woba.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868194292414002063.post-7601684055041125849' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/posts/default/7601684055041125849' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-211786379'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868194292414002063.post-5633018108229135624</id><published>2009-12-06T23:45:44.723-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T23:45:44.723-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The biggest problem with (2*OBP+SLG)/3 is that the...</title><content type='html'>The biggest problem with (2*OBP+SLG)/3 is that the &amp;quot;2&amp;quot; is an oversimplification. It&amp;#39;s been known for awhile that the best fit is a multiplier around 1.75. Just use (1.75*OBP+SLG)/3 and you will find the league average is very close to .330.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course your fitted curve will give a better fit than a linear equation, but it&amp;#39;s not always worth the extra math.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/7601684055041125849/comments/default/5633018108229135624'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/7601684055041125849/comments/default/5633018108229135624'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.3-dbaseball.net/2009/11/converting-obpslg-to-woba.html?showComment=1260168344723#c5633018108229135624' title=''/><author><name>6p00e54ff17e308833</name><uri>http://profile.typepad.com/6p00e54ff17e308833</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.3-dbaseball.net/2009/11/converting-obpslg-to-woba.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868194292414002063.post-7601684055041125849' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2868194292414002063/posts/default/7601684055041125849' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-373236168'/></entry></feed>
